Smerconish: People want to lead their lives.
Mayor: And they can again.
Smerconish: You know, I feel it here in New York City. By the way, I’m from Philadelphia. So, it’s not like I live in a rural area. But I feel it in every block that I walk in New York City. But if I were in the middle part of the country with you, I don’t think we’d see masks. I don’t think we’d be showing our vax cards anywhere. So, I come back to that point where, unless everybody’s on the same page in the country, we’re kind of screwed.
Mayor: You know how you get on the same page? People have to lead. So look, I believe with enough leadership, enough mandates, we’re going to get a hell of a lot more people vaccinated. The more people vaccinated, the more we actually make the transition to a time when COVID is in the background, not the foreground. And we know these mandates work. And we know people respond — look, human beings are pretty predictable. If you say your paycheck depends on it, or your ability to enjoy life and go do the things you want to do, people will make the practical decision overwhelmingly. And they’ll go get vaccinated. But we aren’t pushing hard enough. We got to go farther.
h/t Marvin Heemeyer