You Don't Have To Be A "Trump Supporter" To See That You Can't Trust The Media.

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by Fooomanchu
 
You can’t trust the media. Even if you don’t support Trump, this is a fact that cannot be escaped. It is the same media that lied us into killing millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria while bankrupting the country. It is the same media that are beholden to their corporate masters. And it is the same media that are now frantically against Trump.
When nothing is ever confirmed or verified, and it’s all coming from “sources”, it’s dishonest to even describe it as a story, let alone some kind of smoking gun. With the email leaks on Hillary, there was real evidence to evaluate. The worst they claim Flynn did was that, while setting up a meeting (literally his job), he said something to the effect of “all topics can be discussed”. The contrast between these two examples cannot be more stark.
I wonder if the people who are stuck in the left/right paradigm, or enthralled by the Trump haters have asked themselves, why are all the Republican leadership so openly against Trump? Why are Democrats Dennis Kucinich and Tulsi Gabbard warning us that the deep state is trying to take over against all Americans, and that we need to stop funding Al Qaeda and ISIS? How does it feel to be fighting for the side of people like Dick Cheney, John McCain, Bill Kristol, Charles and David Koch, Paul Ryan, and Lindsey Graham? Could it maybe, possibly, be that, this isn’t about left or right?
Even the most skeptical American should recognize that there’s almost nothing lost by giving Trump a chance for a few months versus supporting neocon warmongers in a coup attempt that apparently has to happen instantly. When every poll shows that people are progressively and increasingly losing trust in the media, why is it that they’ve quintupled down on the same hysterical and apocalyptic rhetoric? Why are they crying wolf, and in the process destroying their most precious assets, their credibility and viewership? Whatever the reason, it must be pretty darned important if they’re willing to destroy their own businesses!
What’s more likely, that all the “conspiracy theories” regarding the misdeeds of the existing fossilized leadership of both parties are true? Or that Trump is a misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, racist, transphobic, fascist, Nazi, KKK member who is bent on global genocide, while also being controlled by Putin, Sessions, Bannon, Kushner, and a racist frog?
Hey, Trump says let’s “drain the swamp” and he appointed all these powerful people into his cabinet. I know these billionaires types are usually bad, but sometimes they aren’t, and since it changes virtually nothing to wait and see what Trump does, maybe this will be a case where they actually drain that swamp of corrupt politicians everyone has always claimed to be against? It won’t take very long for us to know definitively whether his actions are good or bad for your average person. Why not wait 6 months? Talk is cheap, judge by actions. We learned that one the hard way with Obama, we won’t forget it just because 6 months goes by.
You don’t have to be a “Trump supporter” to see that you can’t trust the media.
Now is the time to point out these facts to your friends who remain under a spell. Show them how the media lies. Help them get out of the left/right paradigm, but do it with a friendly smile using key questions so that they figure it out for themselves.

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18 thoughts on “You Don't Have To Be A "Trump Supporter" To See That You Can't Trust The Media.

  1. “Or that Trump is a misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, racist, transphobic,
    fascist, Nazi, KKK member who is bent on global genocide, while also being controlled by Putin, Sessions, Bannon, Kushner, and a racist frog?”
    ????

  2. On a visit to my oncologist recently, as we were chatting, I asked “what about Trump? Are we going to give him a chance?”
    Her hatred flared up immediately: “that stupid [this that and another] can’t even speak properly”.
    I offered that he had roughly the same IQ as George W.
    “Yes, but Bush is from a long established political family”.
    This from a person who has enough brains to become an oncologist!
    I left it there, because she literally has my life in her hands and her unwarranted emotional outburst had me worried.
    What is wrong with these people and all the hatred they have for Trump?
    It’s not about Republicans vs Democrats.
    It’s all for the one man, Trump.
    Where does it come from?

      • No, we get along fine.
        It’s just that that intense hatred for Trump that took me by surprise.
        And like cops, doctors, cooks, waitresses, nurses and any other professional who can spit in your food, or otherwise give you a hard time, you don’t antagonise them, unless it’s absolutely necessary, and you have witnesses.

    • I think it comes from belief in what the corporate media are saying.
      If you get all your news from CNN and the New York Times, obviously you’re going to hate Trump, because all you hear is Trump is a Nazi, Trump is incompetent, Trump eats kittens for breakfast, puppies for lunch and babies for dinner, Trump is controlled by Putin (except when they’re saying he’s about to launch nuclear war with Russia), Trump is a racist, Trump wants to abolish human rights, …
      Why would you want to give someone like that a chance?
      While I don’t share their opinion (Trump is nowhere near as bad as the corporate media are saying, and Hitlery Clinton is about as bad a warmonger as the Bushitler), I fully get why some of the protesters are doing what they’re doing. They’re acting on the information they have. It just happens to be mostly lies and propaganda.

    • It certainly couldn’t be because of Trump’s own words, can it?
      Your dismissal of “her unwarranted emotional outburst” states more of your naivety than it does for her reaction to a man who, IN HIS OWN WORDS RECORDED ON VIDEO, stated the following verbatim:
      “I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.”
      “I did try and fuck her. She was married.”
      “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”
      “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
      Now if you would like to answer why a woman might be offended by those words, you can. If you simply wish to ignore what Trump has actually said, that’s fine also. But to dismiss your oncologist for reacting to what Trump has actually said seems a bit naive.

      • You boil it all down to that?
        A bit of trash talk?
        That’s beyond simplistic.
        And you might want to give critical reading a try, before saying something ludicrous, like I’m “dismissing my oncologist”.
        In addition, your use of misleading rhetoric, such as “to dismiss your oncologist for reacting to what Trump has actually said seems a bit naive” is not only morally wicked, but also sanctimoniously hypocritical.
        On the other hand, maybe you are just monumentally stupid.

        • You never did answer why a woman would have such a response to a man who has said the following things… and I quote… again:
          ““I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.”
          “I did try and fuck her. She was married.”
          “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”
          “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
          Please, tell me where I’m using “misleading rhetoric” in quoting the president’s own words without resorting to an ad-hominem attack.

      • How is your post in any way relevant?
        Do you know for a fact that the oncologist was aware of those things Trump allegedly said?
        (I say “allegedly” because tapes are easily dubbed and I thought the allegations were so petty and ridiculous, I didn’t waste time on them.)
        If indeed she was aware of it, how can you be sure that that was the trigger that set her off.
        It seemed more likely to me, that she was upset that Trump wasn’t from an established political family and that he talked like a “common” man.
        Don’t you think it would be rather shallow for an intelligent woman to show hate over a bit of trash talk?
        Don’t you think it is more important in politics, to judge a person on what he does, rather than on what he might have said years ago?
        Your post shows a haughty chauvinistic narrow-mindedness from centuries past.
        Grow up.

        • Your continued ad-hominem attacks will continue to be duly noted.
          As far as your statement that Trump “allegedly” said the following things: And I quote… again, in Trump’s own words:
          “I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.”
          “I did try and fuck her. She was married.”
          “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”
          “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
          Here’s the link to the original story in the Washington Post:
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?utm_term=.c2f683ca031a
          I guess Mr. Trump using those words when speaking about Nancy O’Dell isn’t “chauvinistic narrow-mindedness”.
          If you wish to respond to what Trump has actually stated, I would welcome that. For the record, I judge people for what they say and what they write online. After reading your continued ad hominem attacks towards me, I will politely decline to engage this topic with you any longer. I forgive you.

  3. The “honest” media that hid the truth about Viet Nam and just about every other occurrence for the last 100 years.
    Time for good old fashioned horse whipping and tar, feather, and ride out of town on a rail for lying media shills.

  4. Absolutely — if you think Trump is more evil than Hitler, don’t look at what the media is doing to Trump – look at what they did to Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. Or, if you’re a Republican NeverTrumper, remember Ron Paul?
    Also, remember everything they did to cover up Bush/Cheney’s lies?
    Only then, ask yourself if you can believe everything they’re saying about Trump.

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